So you’re saying the audience for the ads have the people who are willing to pay for stuff, the very people the advertisers are paying to reach, removed from it.
I wonder how much longer this will go before the advertisers catch on to that.
y’know, it used to be that you paid money for things and there wasn’t even an ad option.
I mean companies don’t pay if you don’t see the ads, they just show the ads to someone else and you didn’t pay if you see the ads.
As a highly experienced software developer, I’m available for not writing software at a reduced rate of $45/hr, and I can handle unlimited overtime.
As a highly experienced murderer, I’m available for not murdering you and skinning your family alive in front of you for a low cost of just $40/hr.
You’re gonna murder and skin me in front of myself? I’m intrigued and have 40$ to spare
Ever heard of Elsevier? You pay them for the privilege of posting your article, and then they charge other people for the privilege of accessing it.
And they don’t pay the people actually proofreading/peer reviewing the stuff
Now that’s just comically evil. Who designed this system, Spez?
not the first time capitalism asks you for money to solve problems capitalism created…
*and we block YouTube ads to not show ads
Meanwhile YouTubers don’t get paid enough so they still show you their ads.
Sponsorblock.
You forgot the part where they pay the video creator 50% of the money and use the other 50% to run one of the most computationally expensive and complex services on the internet.
I had three adverts slapped on one of my videos on my crummy 4 subscriber channel and I don’t get a single penny from it.
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It doesn’t make any cents.
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What did you type? I keep seeing this glyph in messages. I assume it’s not supposed to look like this?
Maracas. You said bah-dum and I said tsss. There’s no cymbal in the emoji collection. ☹️
I don’t know about computationaly expensive. Once video is processed, it’s mostly just a fancy CDN.
Wouldn’t serving video and bandwidth concerns count as complexity?
I was sort of lumping storage and compute costs together as “compute” but compute itself is probably astronomical too.
Even if it was just a CDN, a cdn at that scale streaming that much content simultaneously would require a huge amount of compute just to handle the streaming request traffic.
There’s also the recommendation algorithm which is powered by ai and takes a shit ton of parameters, at that scale that would be a massive computational task in and of itself.
Even video processing they probably send it through a couple Ai pipelines to add subtitles, make sure it’s not porn, check if your discussing topics with high misinformation so it can put that Wikipedia link below the video, etc.
All that plus probably another million other little problems that comes with running a service at that scale.
Well yes, that’s how they don’t go out of business. In theory.
The thing with advertising is that the advertisers make more money in product sales from people who watched ads than they spend telling YT to push their ads. That’s just how the advertising business works.
In other words, either the viewers pay youtube not to show ads, or the viewers pay the advertisers to pay youtube (in a roundabout way).
So it’s just you paying in both cases, unless you use an adblocker :)
PSA: firefox + ublock origin blocks youtube ads even on mobile (on android at least)
People on iPhone can use “Firefox Focus” it’s a browser with no tabs, just a single window with Adblock.
I’d pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.
In fact, a couple of my favorite YouTube creators are on nebula.tv and I pay them $30/year.
I’d pay YouTube if it were $5/month instead of $15.
It’s less than 5/month on the family plan IF you have 4 other people you’d like to share with
The family plan is the only reason I pay for premium lol.
Family plan is 5 or 6 google accounts for 22$ a month. That’s what I do
Nebula rules I always make a point to check there first. Great for treadmill shows and stuff
Is a treadmill show just something you watch while you’re on the treadmill?
honestly i’m not sure lol. I prefer shows I don’t have to pay too much attention to but i always end up watching real life lore/geopolitic/news videos and get really wrapped up in them. I’ll probably classify them as shows that i watch in my own and not with my fiance.
Right I meant more the expression itself, first time I see it I think.
I pay $14CAD for Crunchyroll and I don’t even use it that much. I use hours and hours of Youtube content pretty much every day. I also had Nebula but need to get that sorted again now that they aren’t with Curiosity Stream.
People will pay for a lot of stuff but ask them to pay for Youtube and they will lose their damn minds.
YouTube doesn’t even produce their own content. I’d rather get it somewhere else, if creators offer that option.
Sure, but considering just how much they need to store and serve to viewers at the highest speed I kinda get it. Look if it was $20CAD a month I’d definitely reconsider, and if they start putting ads in anyway I’ll cancel because I’m not paying to still see that shit, but for now it’s fine.
Netflix serves more.
I wish Nebula had official support for third party clients.
What I really want is a more decentralized approach. Hosting video is expensive so it would be idea if it could be offloaded to smaller community devices instead of huge server farms.
There’s Peertube but it’s a model that requires a lot more people to work well. I tried to watch a video but nobody was seeding. That was my first experience with it.
Doesn’t Grayjay have Nebula support?
No official support
Official support from Nebula or from Grayjay? I reinstalled and it’s definitely in there.
Support from Nebula
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Could just be that they’ve fixed their interface since then.
They would lose money with every user if this was the case, UNLESS they stopped paying creators entirely
I’d gladly pay €15 a month if they guaranteed not to track me on the internet.
“We”? Who’s “we”? There is no “we”.I mean…yeah. Ads subsidize viewers that can’t/won’t pay. That’s the whole system. Did you expect something else?
YouTube keeps uBlock functioning to keep me going to their website.
