Peter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 months agoA new country in the world!feddit.orgimagemessage-square7fedilinkarrow-up10arrow-down10file-text
arrow-up10arrow-down1imageA new country in the world!feddit.orgPeter_Arbeitslos@feddit.org to Memes@lemmy.ml · 3 months agomessage-square7fedilinkfile-text
minus-squareZloubida@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-23 months agoSymbols have more than one meaning… The word “fascism” comes from one of these symbols: the Fasces. However the fasces are still used by France: Or by the US: Are these countries fascists just because they use the Fasces? Of course not. They have other meanings. It’s the same with this Ukrainian symbol.
minus-squareOurToothbrush@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-23 months agoThe difference is that at the time the fasces were adopted they didn’t mean fascism. But also, coincidentally, the US and France are fascist.
minus-squareZloubida@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-23 months agoAnd the tryzub didn’t mean fascism when it was firstly adopted by the (menchevik communist) Ukrainian People’s Republic in 1917…
minus-squareOurToothbrush@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0·edit-23 months agoOkay but it did mean fascism after ww2. You know, after nazi collaborators participated in the holocaust in Ukraine, killing Ukrainian Jewish folks and others. I dont think the original Ukrainian republic in 1917 was fascist though, we agree there.
minus-squareZloubida@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·3 months agoVichy France of Pétain participated in the Holocaust too. France still use the fasces, the same anthem and the same flag.
minus-squareOurToothbrush@lemmy.mllinkfedilinkarrow-up0arrow-down1·edit-23 months agoWell, hot take /s, France bad
Symbols have more than one meaning… The word “fascism” comes from one of these symbols: the Fasces. However the fasces are still used by France:
Or by the US:
Are these countries fascists just because they use the Fasces? Of course not. They have other meanings. It’s the same with this Ukrainian symbol.
The difference is that at the time the fasces were adopted they didn’t mean fascism. But also, coincidentally, the US and France are fascist.
And the tryzub didn’t mean fascism when it was firstly adopted by the (menchevik communist) Ukrainian People’s Republic in 1917…
Okay but it did mean fascism after ww2. You know, after nazi collaborators participated in the holocaust in Ukraine, killing Ukrainian Jewish folks and others.
I dont think the original Ukrainian republic in 1917 was fascist though, we agree there.
Vichy France of Pétain participated in the Holocaust too. France still use the fasces, the same anthem and the same flag.
Well, hot take /s, France bad