Special counsel Jack Smith is dropping the federal election subversion and the mishandling of classified documents cases against President-elect Donald Trump, seeking the cases’ dismissal in court filings Monday.
Literally name one thing that points to a bad faith argument here. Is anything critical of the party ‘propaganda’ now? That sure sounds familiar to a certain other party’s rhetoric.
How can you witness the DNC lose two elections and barely win another by razor-thin margins during a time of unprecedented turmoil and think the party is doing well or above reproach?
All you’re doing here is an ad hominem against the messenger and failing to give a single reason why you think their argument is wrong.
Trump got away with corruption because the DNC dragged their feet on pursuing charges until the 11th hour and now it’s too late. That seems like a damn good reason to criticize the people leading the party.
The head of the DOJ is appointed by the president though and they waited until a little over a year ago in August '23, after he won the RNC nomination, right in the ramp up into the election to charge Trump. Most of the delays are related directly to this and his candidacy for president as no judge wants to directly meddle in the election.
Why didn’t they charge him in the nearly three years prior to that? They’d been prosecuting plenty of the January 6th participants during that time. Why not prosecute him for refusing to return all those top secret documents during that time? We had pictures, eye witnesses testifying that he had them in his bathroom, and admissions from Trump directly during that time.
You’re obviously being disingenuous by using Trumps success to spread FUD
How is that? You just admitted yourself “Trumps success” in avoiding any accountability, yet you call it “FUD” when people point out why he was successful in avoiding prosecution. How is this even FUD to begin with? The fact that you keep linking to the definition of it like it’s some obscure term makes me think you just learned about it or something. There’s no fear, uncertainty, or doubt that Trump will never be held accountable for any of this because we all just witnessed him get away with it.
Trump got his case delayed. The DOJ can’t just hold their own trial. If the trial is delayed by the judge the DOJ can’t have the trial. So it makes no sense for you to blame the DOJ but you still do.
There are certain accounts on lemmy that try to drum up hate for democrats by blaming them for Trumps actions. It’s been obvious to more than just me.
The case was delayed after they waited nearly two and a half years to charge him which put the trial too close to the election. Why are you completely glossing over this while talking about ‘drumming things up?’ You’re clearly trying to obfuscate the facts here.
Trump didn’t wait until August '23 to bring any indictments against himself. That was the decision of Merrick Garland who was appointed directly by Joe Biden in March of 2021.
Why are you pretending Trump hasn’t gotten away with many other crimes already?
Each time anyone tries to prosecute Trump he claims it’s a witch hunt.
Each time he gets away with it the public believes his narrative a little more.
This means the DOJ can’t just go after him recklessly. They have to build an air tight case against not just your average defendant, but Trump.
Otherwise they lose another case and Trump is empowered by it.
This is what has happened time and time again. But people like yourself are acting like you’ve been living under a rock this whole time by pretending it is easy to pin down Trump and being disingenuous by trying to pin the blame on the DOJ and the DNC for Trump getting away.
Do you really think you know more than the DoJ about this situation?
This means the DOJ can’t just go after him recklessly. They have to build an air tight case against not just your average defendant, but Trump.
Otherwise they lose another case and Trump is empowered by it.
Like they did here leading to him getting away with a multitude of felonies? A single state government managed to successfully prosecute and convict him, but you’re telling me the DOJ with the full resources of the federal government couldn’t manage to do the same because it’s too hard?
Do you really think you know more than the DoJ about this situation?
Do you really feel like an “appeal to authority” argument is valid, especially in this context? You want to act like I’m an idiot because ‘they have a solid, air-tight plan’ as we’re here commenting on an article about how all charges against him have been dismissed. That sounds like the exact opposite of a solid plan. Who ever could have imagined that a defendent would try to delay their case from being heard in court? Obviously, this completely blindsided the DOJ as it’s such an unprecedented tactic, so it’s perfectly understandable why they have to let him walk away.
Like they did here leading to him getting away with a multitude of felonies?
If they try and fail they can’t try again.
but you’re telling me the DOJ with the full resources of the federal government couldn’t manage to do the same because it’s too hard
Nope I’m explaining to you what happened. They had to build a case first, that took time. By the time they were ready, a judge delayed the trial at Trumps request.
You want to act like I’m an idiot because ‘they have a solid, air-tight plan’ as we’re here commenting on an article about how all charges against him have been dismissed.
I’m acting like you’re an idiot because the trial was dismissed after Trump delayed it long enough to get re-elected and said he would fire the prosecutor.
But your armchair internet legal analysis is that it wouldn’t be delayed if they just did it sooner. Which doesn’t make any sense.
But if you really think you’re smarter than the entire DOJ then why don’t you go stop Trump. Show them how it’s done.
Because the DNC is not blameless, and while we can’t control Trump or his followers, the DNC is something we (should) have control over. Being critical of the things we have control over is literally the only way to improve them.
And for the record, DNC != Democrats. The person you are responding to is being critical of the DNC, not democrats. That is a very important distinction.
Also did you just link to the wiki article on FUD as though people might not know what you’re referring to?
Why is it that every time Trump gets away with corruption you try to turn it into FUD towards democrats?
It’s chronic with that user. The Boost app allows you to tag usernames and it’s very helpful for tracking bad faith accounts.
Ya, it’s been pretty obvious for a while and I don’t even use boost or keep track.
Literally name one thing that points to a bad faith argument here. Is anything critical of the party ‘propaganda’ now? That sure sounds familiar to a certain other party’s rhetoric.
How can you witness the DNC lose two elections and barely win another by razor-thin margins during a time of unprecedented turmoil and think the party is doing well or above reproach?
All you’re doing here is an ad hominem against the messenger and failing to give a single reason why you think their argument is wrong.
Trump got away with corruption because the DNC dragged their feet on pursuing charges until the 11th hour and now it’s too late. That seems like a damn good reason to criticize the people leading the party.
The DNC isn’t the DOJ. Trump was successful at delaying almost all of his trials at no fault to the DOJ. I repeat:
At Trump’s request, judge delays immunity filing in Jan. 6 prosecution
You’re obviously being disingenuous by using Trumps success to spread FUD
The head of the DOJ is appointed by the president though and they waited until a little over a year ago in August '23, after he won the RNC nomination, right in the ramp up into the election to charge Trump. Most of the delays are related directly to this and his candidacy for president as no judge wants to directly meddle in the election.
Why didn’t they charge him in the nearly three years prior to that? They’d been prosecuting plenty of the January 6th participants during that time. Why not prosecute him for refusing to return all those top secret documents during that time? We had pictures, eye witnesses testifying that he had them in his bathroom, and admissions from Trump directly during that time.
How is that? You just admitted yourself “Trumps success” in avoiding any accountability, yet you call it “FUD” when people point out why he was successful in avoiding prosecution. How is this even FUD to begin with? The fact that you keep linking to the definition of it like it’s some obscure term makes me think you just learned about it or something. There’s no fear, uncertainty, or doubt that Trump will never be held accountable for any of this because we all just witnessed him get away with it.
Trump got his case delayed. The DOJ can’t just hold their own trial. If the trial is delayed by the judge the DOJ can’t have the trial. So it makes no sense for you to blame the DOJ but you still do.
There are certain accounts on lemmy that try to drum up hate for democrats by blaming them for Trumps actions. It’s been obvious to more than just me.
The case was delayed after they waited nearly two and a half years to charge him which put the trial too close to the election. Why are you completely glossing over this while talking about ‘drumming things up?’ You’re clearly trying to obfuscate the facts here.
Trump didn’t wait until August '23 to bring any indictments against himself. That was the decision of Merrick Garland who was appointed directly by Joe Biden in March of 2021.
Why are you pretending Trump hasn’t gotten away with many other crimes already?
Each time anyone tries to prosecute Trump he claims it’s a witch hunt.
Each time he gets away with it the public believes his narrative a little more.
This means the DOJ can’t just go after him recklessly. They have to build an air tight case against not just your average defendant, but Trump.
Otherwise they lose another case and Trump is empowered by it.
This is what has happened time and time again. But people like yourself are acting like you’ve been living under a rock this whole time by pretending it is easy to pin down Trump and being disingenuous by trying to pin the blame on the DOJ and the DNC for Trump getting away.
Do you really think you know more than the DoJ about this situation?
Like they did here leading to him getting away with a multitude of felonies? A single state government managed to successfully prosecute and convict him, but you’re telling me the DOJ with the full resources of the federal government couldn’t manage to do the same because it’s too hard?
Do you really feel like an “appeal to authority” argument is valid, especially in this context? You want to act like I’m an idiot because ‘they have a solid, air-tight plan’ as we’re here commenting on an article about how all charges against him have been dismissed. That sounds like the exact opposite of a solid plan. Who ever could have imagined that a defendent would try to delay their case from being heard in court? Obviously, this completely blindsided the DOJ as it’s such an unprecedented tactic, so it’s perfectly understandable why they have to let him walk away.
If they try and fail they can’t try again.
Nope I’m explaining to you what happened. They had to build a case first, that took time. By the time they were ready, a judge delayed the trial at Trumps request.
I’m acting like you’re an idiot because the trial was dismissed after Trump delayed it long enough to get re-elected and said he would fire the prosecutor.
But your armchair internet legal analysis is that it wouldn’t be delayed if they just did it sooner. Which doesn’t make any sense.
But if you really think you’re smarter than the entire DOJ then why don’t you go stop Trump. Show them how it’s done.
Because the DNC is not blameless, and while we can’t control Trump or his followers, the DNC is something we (should) have control over. Being critical of the things we have control over is literally the only way to improve them.
And for the record, DNC != Democrats. The person you are responding to is being critical of the DNC, not democrats. That is a very important distinction.
Also did you just link to the wiki article on FUD as though people might not know what you’re referring to?