A highly controversial court order that required Cisco, Cloudflare, and Google to poison DNS earlier this year was just the beginning. To further combat sports piracy, broadcaster Canal+ sought several follow-up orders. Cisco had discontinued its OpenDNS service in France due to the legal restrictions, so only Google and Cloudflare put up a defense, but without the desired result.
I hate to side with big tech, but they’re not wrong… DNS poisoning is ineffective when pirate sites can just change domains, and users can just change DNS provider or use a VPN. It’s a cat and mouse race that’ll be ultimately impossible to win
Using piracy as an excuse to exert control over the means of domain resolution.
Wonder how long it will take all these rights groups, trying to weaponize badness enumeration, to realize what a horribly ineffective strategy it is.
they don’t care whether it’s effective
Quad9 still works right?
Yeah, this is interesting to me. Google and Cloudflare are for-profit companies that have presence in the EU at minimum, and probably France directly as well although I don’t know that for sure. If they refused to comply, France can fine their local EU subsidiary and block their ability to receive payments from eu entities.
Quad9 is a not-for-profit located in Switzerland. I wouldn’t expect them to need local subsidiaries, as they aren’t doing business in the EU or anywhere else. The France could fine them, but they’d have no way of collecting if Quad9 refused to pay right? It’s a free service, so there’s nothing to block on the payment processor side that would prevent French users from accessing it. You’d have to blackhole all traffic to the quad9 IPs on a national level right?
Yeah ud have to blackhole the ip. Which would mean u would need a national firewall filtering every single citizens network traffic. It might also violate net neutrality. Plus ud also have to bully every single satelite internet company into complying (good luck with elon lol).
Its possible but would be a right pain in the ass and huge violation of internet freedoms and possibly free speach itself.
For now… Any legal entity can be forced to do this though if court sides with theese parasites.
It won’t kill piracy, it willake it more decentralized
Wouldn’t DNSSEC makes the whole poisoning moot?
In general DNS poisoning is not a very effective measure as these companies point out in the article.
There are simpler ways to block access, they noted, pointing out that the measures would not be effective because users could use VPNs or other DNS resolvers to bypass the blocks.
Specify the country in the damn headline.
Since you haven’t said it either… This is in France.
Canal+ could choose the blocking measures it deemed appropriate and the existence of alternative solutions is irrelevant, the court said.
Ah yes, please take action. It is irrelevant that action has no effect.
