• wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works
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      18 days ago

      Rust my bolts and call me the tin man, 'cause I’m standing next to the biggest strawman of the century, and he still has no brain. Dorothy’s probably on her way any second.

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        18 days ago

        Sarcasm my dude.

        Death penalty doesn’t reduce crime.

        What I’m calling out is that the comment laid out the blueprint for authoritarian extrajudicial killings, they just don’t get it.

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          17 days ago

          And that’s fair. I think, though, that they were pointing out that the violence in that case would be mob violence from the hypothetical revolution, not actually at the behest of an authoritarian ruler. The death penalty is not involved. They seemed to be arguing that, at some point, the measurable and visible harm a person or small number of people does or do to the world by their continued practices, combines with the risk of them using their power and influence to escape from justice should any real attempt be made to force them to reconcile with their crimes, and that this inability to enforce justice without death, combined with the inherent injustice of doing nothing, could be the fomenting factor for mob violence against such tyrants.

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      18 days ago

      Well no, the answer should be prison, but the system is obviously corrupt because they are not in prison. If the system doesnt imprison criminals then sometimes the systems need to be circumvented.

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        18 days ago

        It will absolutely solve the problem,.

        People dont want to die > People stop doing things that make others want to kill them > Success

        Edit if y’all don’t see how I’m being sarcastic, and this reply is about how the death penalty does not deter crime, I don’t know what to tell ya.

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          18 days ago

          You can’t change the system while they own it and you can’t jail them when they own the prisons as well as the ones that should be putting them there.

          What do you suggest?

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            18 days ago

            Well, non violent seizing of the means via unionizing and community action via grassroots electorate driven by transparent mutual aid.

            But once you sign on to get the executions starting, you better hope you’re in the “in group” all along. Else the violence will eventually come for you (not you you, hypothetical anyone)

            And back to my point, the death penalty will just make them crafty, it won’t stop greed.

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              18 days ago

              Okay so once you’ve non violently seized the means, and they come to violently take them back, then what?

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                18 days ago

                If you’ve seized em you’ve seized em. The system is no longer available for their exploitation. So did you or didn’t you?

                Again, have fun with the violence, but once that cat is out of the bag you always get 2 things:

                1. Spillover violence outside the “pure” original intentions
                2. Power vacuum
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                    18 days ago

                    I’ve fundamentally contested what you said.

                    If you have seized the means and systems, the billionaire class are by definition deplatformed.