• Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
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    8 hours ago

    Ubuntu install takes 20 mins, including download and burning the USB. Make it 30, maybe?

    My only windows 11 install took 7 hours, multiple days, BIOS visits, searching for documentation and hair pulling, all with the same machine.

    Yeah, there is a difference

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      7 hours ago

      How the fuck. I seriously want to know. My W11 IoT installed under half an hour.

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        5 hours ago

        Did you also get most of the extra software installed at the same time or did you need to spend extra time getting all your non-OS software installed to make your computer actually useful?

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          5 hours ago

          Windows itself was installed during that time. Additional software installation took a few minutes. I installed stuff when I needed it thorough the day.

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            35 minutes ago

            So nothing to really make Windows actually useful on reboot. In nearly the same amount of time with a Linux distro, you get a system that may well not need anything extra to be productive with on 1rst reboot.

            (And yes, I have installed both OS systems from scratch dating back to dos).

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              30 minutes ago

              I need to install all of my apps under Linux as well. Doesn’t make much of a difference. I don’t like the default browser, media player, torrent client, office suite, etc. that Mint ships with for example.

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      7 hours ago

      I believe your anecdote, but my Linux Mint install also took multiple days, BIOS visits, and lots of documentation searching. It’s a factor of how much the OS makers anticipated the specific hardware configuration and how out of date the partitions are configured.

      My main point is that both can be frustrating, and there’s nothing consistent.

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      5 hours ago

      Just to add another anecdatum, I had the exact same experience installing Windows 11 this year. I have never had this much trouble installing an OS in the 20 years I’ve been screwing with computers.

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      7 hours ago

      Oh so you’re bad at using computers. Got it. I can have windows 11 without telemetry in 10 minutes and with a local user profile instead of a Microsoft account. This argument about what you were able to do and how long it took you doesn’t make you look cool or smart. It makes you look like you have no idea what you’re doing.

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        3 hours ago

        He may have been trying to install it on a potato or on something atypical. I struggled to get a clean Windows 10 install on a system with an old ASUS motherboard using its RAID controller and AHCI. Support didn’t seem to understand the problem, but they were a good sounding board while I figured it out over 3 evenings. By contrast, Windows 11 took all of 10 minutes to install with Rufus on a modern system. Sometimes you just end up with a system configuration that isn’t quite supported out of the box by a given OS, and it takes some third party drivers and some intermediary configurations to get things to load before you can get things working properly.