True. I know there will always be a justification and it would be a hard fight to change the minds of those who are being grifted.

I figured my comment would be countered with “justification” as to why. Not you but your explanation and yea preaching my friend.

If this is true, what did he do to deserve this. This doesn’t just happen to a good god fearing person. So I guess the real question is, what did he do to deserve this.

This doesn’t just happen to a good god fearing person. Why would this happen if he DIDN’T deserve this. Clearly he lost favor with the good lord and has opened himself up to the devil to be possessed by a demon.

What if I told you that this has happened with Kids and recorded with kid stand ins. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mnG_Gbxf_w Not perfect evidence but the best you will find without signing a Tesla Non Disclosure.

Moisturize me.

The comic doesn’t show that he refilled his wine glass 5 times in the 4 panel comic.

Pot meet kettle.

Whats the old phrase originally meant for news papers… Don’t pick a fight with people who buy ink by the barrel. Same thing here just different format.

I think kindenough is making a point about how things can change easily. Its easy to go from “I am punishing my kid” to abuse in a split second and you may not know the difference especial if you don’t/can’t reflect on what happened. A small change over time will go unnoticed. I big change can go unnoticed if you are not watching.

I got spanked and even hit a time or two as a kid.

I turned out okay considering. Had kids and thought a spanking or two wasn’t bad considering what i went though so that’s the stance i took. Thankfully we had ip cams instead of video baby monitors when they were babies. $90 vs $350 at the time so that’s what we did. I set them up with my Synology to record continuously.

I watched a monster overreact to a common child reaction. [Not justifying just explaining (I was tired and thus had a short fuse as happens at times with young kids)] Thankfully two things had happened. (1) I had the IP camera recording everything that happened, (2) I wanted to see why my kid was acting up and make sure I was in the “right” to spank her. Spoiler, I was not. I saw an angry man react to a kid who didn’t want to do something.

I cried, because I was my father when I was punished unjustly as a kid. (There were times I actually was a shit head and it was warranted, but i also remember plenty of times it was not) That morning with my 2 year old it was not. Because of that day I no longer fell into the Spanking is okay for me group.

Don’t get me wrong I know there are times it can be helpful but I realized at that moment I was not a good judge of when those times were. This means I was no longer going to do it. That was me but I don’t judge other who only spank.