• Tehhund@lemmy.world
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    Did anyone read the article? Besides the top 2, these amounts are paltry:

    Data by MediaRadar showed that Comcast, which spent less than $1.5 million on X this year, was followed by Warner Bros. Discovery at $1.1 million, whose ads are supporting theatrical releases of movies, and Disney at under $550,000. Lionsgate spent less than $230,000, while IBM allocated under $2,000.

    That’s embarrassing.

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      Doesn’t matter. They’re not doing it to get people to see their ads, they’re doing it to bribe Elon since he has actual political power now. Kind of like how oil companies buy ads on news media, even though you don’t need to be persuaded to buy oil - it’s to buy favorable coverage.

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        My electrical utility (PG&E) advertises all the time. Like what am I gonna do, not buy electricity? It’s so obviously just a bribe to the media companies.

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            lol they already won that political chess. You still have to pay a connection fee and a transmission fee and a lawsuit settlement fee and an environmental remediation fee, even if you use 0 kW/h. Also with the NEM 3 plan if you have any excess solar generation you give it to them at about 1/10th the price that they will sell to you during the same time of day.

            Edit: I exaggerated unfairly, it’s like 1/8th the price. Also for the people who adopted solar early and were promised a 25 year contract (called NEM 2) they can now magically alter the deal and change the way that credits are calculated despite the 25-year guarantee that was made.

            Edit 2: did you know our governor is a large shareholder of stock in our utility company? The same one that has the power to appoint people to the board that is supposed to regulate the “private” utility? America is doing great.

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          I wonder if that’s why Google advertisers. They are probably the most recognized company on the planet so they definitely don’t need the eyeballs.

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      They don’t care where the money comes from, and at this point they know there’s no cost to their reputation for doing shit like this either.

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    of course they are, they might as well lick his asshole while they are at it. big corporations will always without exception do whatever is necessary to survive.

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      When Hitler needed to track the unwanted in his concentration camps, IBM was there.

      Today, Trump has selected IBM due to our experience in this field of Fascism.

      FYI: while this is not true, I’m sure most Americans will believe it.

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      Ah, a history joke! Don’t forget Coke(Fanta)! Also, the history of Volkswagon is pretty interesting.

      The surprising part is, despite everything Henry Ford believed, I don’t remember ever hearing Ford being on that list.

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      Still, “under $2,000” for a corporation of that size is a surprisingly low amount, compared to the others. Not even worth the negative publicity. Odd choice.

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      I was going to say that’s incredibly on brand for Disney. Everything I have ever heard about Comcast seems to back up this move.

      I’m surprised about IBM though, more because I didn’t realize they were still around than anything else.

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        IBM sold “inmate” counting machines to Nazi Germany. Like, sent techs there to the camps to size up the requirements and everything. It should NOT come as a surprise that they’re back on X - they’ve never had an issue with Fascism (or any other ism) as long as they had money to spend on overpriced iron.

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          Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but why would they even need a machine to count the prisoners? If they didn’t feed their victims and were planning to murder them anyways I’m having trouble understanding why they wouldn’t be okay with just a loose head count. Was it really just for counting?

          I hope I’m not coming across as insensitive, I’ve just never heard about this and it sounds so ominous.

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            https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_and_the_Holocaust

            Black reports that every Nazi concentration camp maintained its own Hollerith-Abteilung (Hollerith Department), assigned with keeping tabs on inmates through use of IBM’s punchcard technology.[2]: 351  In his book, Black charges that “without IBM’s machinery, continuing upkeep and service, as well as the supply of punch cards, whether located on-site or off-site, Hitler’s camps could have never managed the numbers they did.”[2]: 352

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              Dear God, they used a punch card like it was just another day on the job? I hope they didn’t make the “prisoners” do it. I don’t know why this is so chilling but something about having to count yourself like an object makes me feel sick.

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              I know I’m way over simplifying but starvation was one of many cruelties inflicted on victims during the holocaust. I don’t understand why Nazis would want to count people they intended to murder, but I think it’s important to try to understand as much as we can so we don’t let it happen again. Which is why I asked.

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                Well, if you’re that curious, there is a book about it. The Wikipedia article goes into some detail about what the systems were used for.

                They didn’t just truck people into the camps and immediately kill them, so they had to at least track capacity.

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      My favorite lemmy bubble is the smug woke ( idiot leftists, who think they are smart but aren’t) who think Kamala lost because she didn’t take a stance on Gaza and people abstained in protest and not because of sexism and racism.

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          15 million blank ballots is why she lost, but it doesn’t say why those 15 million didn’t show. If you think 15 million people, or even a majority of them, who are largely, older, white, men, did it to protest gaza, I got news for you. It isn’t just the governments, and corporations, that don’t assign value to palestinian life.

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            No they were not largely older white men. And the Gaza issue has a ton of support on the left which would be more readily apparent if it wasn’t so viciously censored by the media and Harris’ own administration.

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              Everything I see about the statistics of those who previously voted biden, then sat out harris, show the largest single demographic, by far, was older white men. You have anything to counter this? The gaza sentiment, while truly more popular than the powers that be wanted to propose, is a lot smaller, when leveled against the entirety of the non GOP voting population, than progressive venues, especially online ones, want to pretend.

              As an example, not a single person in my mom’s big social circle, most of which are not GOP supports, has said one damned thing about the genocide in gaza, and they talk about political issues fairly frequently, even if it is just snipes at someone. Their age/race/economic demographics make the largest portion of those who voted. In the spaces my family live in, down south, people in the their 20s are talking about politics, but gaza isn’t much of a topic, and often when it is, they openly say things to show they need to worry about home, not gaza. The ones who differ are your classic WEIRDs. This same thing holds in a lot of the region I live in, the midatlantic/midwest appalachia region. These people lost her, or at least played a major part in losing her, the election in GA, and PA. They voted mostly based on how bad economic life is for them. They voted stupidly, and are now pissed that they made it worse, but it wasn’t gaza that they gave two fucks about. The one place gaza, likely, truly damaged the harris campaign was MI, because it is second only to India, in muslim population, outside of muslim majority countries.

              I think you are the victim of cultural bubble on this one.

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                There nothing to counter. You just pulled this stat out of your ass and demand I debunk it. No one knows the demographic of the blank ballot voters but to not vote for Harris while still voting down ballot for other Dems suggested it was motivated by a very strong conviction.

                And no misogyny and racism don’t explain it considering how many female candidates den voters elect, how even Hilary performed better, and how Obama was elected.

                I really don’t care if you believe me. You liberals are controlled opposition and will continue to field right wing neoliberals and never see the white house again.

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                  I didn’t say it was misogyny or racism either. You made a claim with out evidence, and I told you what I have read, then asked for your counter, since you seem to have one, but now you say you don’t, so you pulled it out of your ass, just like you claim I did. Pointing out white, older, men, were the big portion of those who sat out, was to point to interests outside of gaza, namely economic ones.

                  I am not a liberal, I am just able to recognize that most people in the US do not actually, truly, care about gaza. I can care all I want about stopping genocide, and it wont make a damned bit of difference to the greater population around me who, vocally, didn’t vote for her, mostly due to economic reasons. Also, you are just projecting that it was YOUR strong conviction that made them not vote for her. Maybe, just maybe, you are out of touch with the fact that most of the US is not particularly progressive, or leftist. Doesn’t matter that I want a leftist system. The dominant conviction was that she dropped the ball in reaching out to people about how she intended to make their personal struggles, better.

                  I also don’t believe that you don’t give a fuck what I believe, I see you everywhere, arguing with everyone, about this, and adjacent issues. Then, when you can’t make a convincing argument, you call them liberals, claim you don’t care, and run off to the next argument, about this.

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        I mean, there’s no singular reason for Kamala’s loss - but abstentions over the middle east were still a reasonably noteworthy problem for the campaign.

        With that being said… more broadly, people are just generally awful and a lot of people bury their heads in the sand rather than acknowledging how backwards the majority really are.

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          This happens a lot when on all major platforms, there’s nothing (not discussion, not ballot initiatives, not informational pieces about causes) that allow you to take direct action. When things broke out in Ukraine and Russia invaded there were people who jumped on planes to go fight. People were posting donation pages everywhere. People were actively rallying against actions they felt were wrong with avenues to help that were meaningful and available to the average human being.

          We just don’t have that in any political election and since it’s a lot of the smaller elections that matter, it’s important to note this deficiency. People who feel a call to action, but not a way to enact change get overwhelmed and despair. Lemmy is one of the only places I see giving information about candidates in local and rural elections (and even that isn’t wide spread and mostly happens on community pages like the one for people from Maine or Chicago, or wherever).

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          Maybe I am too european but I have seen two people lose to Trump and one overwhelming win against him and only one of those had a penis.

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        I think you’re also missing a huge part of it. People don’t care about Gaza nearly as much as people here think, nor do people care about her race or gender much.

        You can see a massive shift in betting odds and polls around the time she had an interview where she said she wouldn’t have done anything different than Biden. My general perception is that she didn’t really have a plan, and I think that’s true for the public. I also think the public didn’t like the comparison of Trump with Hitler. Trump, on the other hand, claimed to have a plan for fixing the economy, and I think that resonated with people, especially since the economy was good under Trump. They see the inflation during COVID as Biden’s problem (I personally blame supply chain disruption mostly, and also Trump’s spending), and Harris refused to throw Biden under the bus.

        I personally blame Harris’s loss on three things:

        • late entry - Biden should’ve dropped out sooner so they could have a real primary
        • lack of real difference vs Biden
        • running mate choice - should’ve picked Shapiro from Pennsylvania, not Walz

        I don’t think her being female hurt her, and it probably helped her appeal to female voters vs Trump, and Obama winning implies race doesn’t matter much either. To me, it comes down to policy and lack of a primary. People wanted change, while she offered more of the same. If you don’t believe me, watch some interviews with people in swing states and listen to what they’re most interested in.

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    I almost can’t blame them. A majority of Americans voted for fascism and racism. These are their customers.

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      A majority of American citizens who voted…that’s an important distinction. Roughly 29% of voting age american citizens and 22% of all american citizens - a sizeable minority but a minority nonetheless - voted for fascism and racism.

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        Well the ones who didn’t vote obviously weren’t too bothered by fascism and racism either, apparently

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            Or saw that both sides probably lead to the same end eventually.

            Get out of here with that false equivalency bullshit. Trump’s cabinet picks so far are a Russian propaganda parroter for head of CIA, an anti-vax and raw milk advocate for Health and Human Services, a white supremacist tattooed person for Defense secretary and a suspected pedophile that is having their ethics hearing results blocked for Attorney General.

            Do you even think for a hot second that Harris would have make such unqualified and toxic choices for her cabinet?

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              Eventually, not immediately. Harris would have been vastly more sane, more status quo. But it would’ve been kicking the can…even if Trump lost now, another Trump would run - and win - down the road. At least with Trump the insanity is out in the open. I mean these cabinet picks are insane. It would be funnier if we didn’t have to live with the consequences.

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                At least with Trump the insanity is out in the open. I mean these cabinet picks are insane. It would be funnier if we didn’t have to live with the consequences.

                Do you not get that Trump will likely get two more Supreme court appointments? The third branch of our government is locked into conservative hands for the next 30 to 40 years now regardless of who gets elected afterward.

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    And nobody was surprised. I predict most advertisers will return by the end of January for the same reasons they left previously: It’s the right business decision at the right time. Remember that the next time a corporation makes a pledge. It’s always about money.