• 01011@monero.town
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    Why is the focus on Black men when fewer than 25% voted for Trump. Meanwhile more than double that percentage of white women voted for Trump. Where is the analysis of their bizarre voting behavior?

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      12 days ago

      Exactly like 2016.

      White women gave Trump the Presidency because deep down, they know structural racism benefits them more than any other group besides white men.

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    12 days ago

    I guess we had Too Much rising wages and record unemployment that it made them all nervous of when the fuckening was going to happen.

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    As we transition into full-blown tyranny, and the out-group begins to grow, I’m trying to educate myself about how to cope with it, survive and maybe even resist. I have found that discussions among black Americans online are extremely enlightening in this regard, presumably because they have existed forever in a precarious state, something like that which many more of us are about to be thrust. I’m not interested in scapegoating black males over this election. This happened because too many Americans are dumb fucks, ruled by emotions, and gullible as hell. End of story.

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      I’m fucking sick of talking about race as if it means anything at all compared to class. We need a two step program

      1. Tax the fucking billionaires out of existence
      2. Stop destroying the biosphere

      Want to make that program palatable? We use the billionaire taxes to make life suck less for everyone in a clear, food-on-the-God-damn-table-and-children- in-decent-schools Kind of way.

      Racism is real and deadly, but what are we gonna do? Bully the racists into being less racist? Send them off to camps for re-education? Let’s just focus on giving everyone enough money that they don’t have to rely on some racist boss to give them a job, or a racist landlord to give them (allow then to pay for) a home.

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        Sounds good until you factor in the need for votes to get such policies in place and the fact that it won’t happen because the racists are responding to media stimulus.

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    I expected this after watching Khalid Attaf videos of talking to customers in his family’s gas station/convenience store. It was depressing to see the reasons people were planning to vote this way. If you watch this, save at least a thread of sanity and don’t read the comments.

    https://youtu.be/E-Il-hLjKGY

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    They’re trying to group them all together, and that’s not fair for this one. Around 78% of black men voted for Harris, as opposed to the around 44% of Latino men. They’re trying to distract us from the fact that a good portion of this was from white voters by mentioning Latinos anyway. Like, “How did we vote facisim. We didn’t vote for him.” That’s all I see articles for. Where are the articles breaking down why over 50% of white women voted for their own subjugation? They’re so used to black people being the scape goat, they throw us in there even when we had little impact on it.

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      78% of black men who voted. Now, just for funsies, what is the percentage of Black men who chose not to vote, and by acclimation, and I use that word charitably, didn’t vote for Harris thereby giving their missing Harris vote to Trump?

      More Latinos voted for Donald Trump than have ever voted for any Republican candidate ever before.

      You can spin all you like. Democrats lost every swing state and control of the Senate.

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        Now, just for funsies, what is the percentage of Black men who chose not to vote, and by acclimation, and I use that word charitably, didn’t vote for Harris thereby giving their missing Harris vote to Trump?

        How exactly do you give a missing vote to Trump? If they didn’t vote then neither candidate got that vote.

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          A non-vote is exactly the same as voting for the winner.

          If you would have voted for the winner, then not voting didn’t matter because your candidate won anyway.

          If you would have voted for the loser, then your non-vote reduced the chance for your candidate to win; which mathematically in a FPTP system means it increased the chance for your opponent to win.

          Though, it is one way to always be on the winning team. /s

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        Just for funsies, what is the percentage of white people who chose not to vote, and by acclimation, and I use that word charitable, didn’t vote for Harris thereby giving the missing Harris vote to Trump?

        Hint, I bet you a hundred bucks that answer would dwarf whatever bullshit your trying to push.

        Fix you own shortcomings there my guy.

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            Percentage by ethic group to see how badly each group fucked us over and even with knowing damn well that this nation goes out of its way to ensure minorities, blacks in particular, can’t vote, i’d still take that double bet.

            Get your racist house in order before you start disparaging minorities that tried to save your asses yet again.

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      There’s still time for them to hop in the strawberry fields after the deportations, then unionize and strike and demand better wages before Musk gets rid of OSHA and collective bargaining

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        Most Latinos do not work in the fields. Many of us have been here for several generations. There are many types of Latinos. (Disclaimer: I voted, phonebanked, and canvassed for Kamala.)

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          I was more trying to say that most of the jobs Trump will create are the absolute shit-ass cash jobs no one wanted to do in the first place, after he does his undocumented mass deportation stuff, and boiled the sentiment down to a colloquialism

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              I really wanna be wrong about this but when companies start stockpiling pre-tariff stuff and moving manufacturing in, it’s gonna show up as a lot of expense and might plunge us into a correction and really dry up the job market. Lots of companies are wringing out earnings beats with revenue misses thanks to layoffs and stuff like that so it’s kinda losing steam to begin with.

              I’ve been trying to think why a lot of bajillionaires are sitting on so much cash in this kind of environment, and aside from the market generally looking overpriced/slim pickings, that’s the only other thing I can envision

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        Maybe democrats should have been talking about black jobs like Trump did. What is a black job anyhow? Is that what all those text messages that went out to black people when Trump was announced the winner of the election we’re about? Head hunters looking for new recruits to work in the exciting new field of… checks notes, uh, picking cotton.

        Fuck people are ignorant.

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        Life is disappointment. I still think a sane person on average would rather have a rainy day than someone piss in their Corn Flakes.

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          What about a bunch of rainy days followed by someone pissing in your Corn Flakes anyway?

          Maybe if so many people weren’t content with, and excusing away, constant choices between different types of disappointment, we wouldn’t have ended up where we are now. It is possible for something other than disappointment to exist…

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    the fuck is gonna happen to the price of [whatever the fuck] when there’s 20% tariffs on everything, a shortage of labor, and the fed issues 8 trillion in bonds?