• skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de
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      Not to ever be a Florida apologist in my entire life, but hating homeless people crosses party lines.

      https://apnews.com/article/california-newsom-homeless-los-angeles-san-francisco-5b2b3aca9ca56efb444a717d278c1fd9

      California dems jumped at taking away homeless camps. Not helping them, just destroying the camps. Claim victory, homeless move a few blocks over, or the next town over, without their stuff. It’s like a South Park episode.

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      It’s not about good ideas, it’s about what works.

      It’s funny when the best way to defeat hateful right is to look at right-wing ideas without emotion and prejudice.

      Find what makes them work to attract people and form parties. Find the most general subset of that you can coexist with. Incorporate it. Doesn’t work? Look for remaining differences. And so on. Evolution. Survival of the fittest.

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    Man who tf goes around enforcing these laws after a disaster. Imagine some wack ass old white guy ticketing people outside of the FEMA medical station for loitering.

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      I can see you haven’t interacted with many police in these areas. I wouldn’t be surprised in the least by any of that behavior. The cops only protect and serve property, not people.

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    If you feel the urge to argue for collective punishment just shut the fuck up. Saying ‘you reap what you sow’ in this case is regressive and cruel. Fascists enacted this law undemocratically and many people, human beings that you should have empathy for, are effectively held captive by the GOP which has heavily gerrymandered Florida and engaged in voter suppression and disenfranchisement. Think critically for a second and direct your criticism at the right people.

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    You know what this reminds me of? There was some cheap ass webcomic in the very early 2000s that had an Amish protagonist. I only remember a single comic where the main character is watching TV and has some pundit say that poor and homeless should be shot. Then our Amish hero sets the pundit’s house on fire rendering him homeless.

    The pundit declares himself poor without his house and is promptly shot by his own followers because they made good his beliefs on shooting the poor and homeless. It was actually kinda funny.

    But that being said, it amazes me just how often people forget the lessons of the past. The great depression seriously changed America’s views on poverty being an entirely individual failing for many, many decades. Even into the Nixon administration he had to remind everyone that he was a New Dealer and wasn’t going to roll back any of that shit. They had to wait until baby boomers, who did not grow up in the depression and were the ungrateful beneficiaries of the numerous programs in its wake, were the main voting block before beginning to roll that shit back.

    It’s also kinda incredible just how the libertarian and conservative propaganda apparatus really nullified most criticism of this shit. While that was always case even back in the 1930s, it was never to this extent.

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      Ayn Rand was not libertarian. She herself said that many times. And as a libertarian - we don’t want her.

      Anyway, tired of that idea of libertarians as conservatives small enough to kick.

      Bailing out big companies is not libertarian. Considering them above the law isn’t that, too. While Ayn Rand was fine with both and kinda thought that there are better and worse people, more and less useful, and the more useful must be catered for, bending laws included. She was basically an inverted bolshevik, where for those guys all economical problems could be solved having one unchecked state-corporation with instead of many, for her all problems could be solved with many unchecked corporations.

      Also calling USA before and during depression a completely free economy would be kinda insincere. It’s also not libertarian to shoot at strikers.

    • 👍Maximum Derek👍@discuss.tchncs.de
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      The people who actually sowed this are only going to reap a few extra weeks of complaining, “the poors are making the streets so ugly, why won’t the police arrest them faster?”

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        No. These people voted to make homelessness illegal and now they’re all homeless. What are they gonna do now? Arrest everyone? Fucking do it. Let the people who voted for the scum that passed these laws face the fucking music.