Summary

Following Donald Trump’s election victory, women are experiencing a surge in misogynistic harassment online, with phrases like “your body, my choice” trending as men taunt women about reproductive rights.

The phrase, co-opted from feminist slogans, reflects heightened hostility, with reports of threats on platforms like TikTok and X/Twitter.

This backlash arises as Trump’s administration, alongside VP-elect JD Vance, raises concerns about potential federal restrictions on abortion.

Even without a federal ban, existing state laws have already limited access to reproductive care, contraception, and increased maternal health risks.

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    Fuck my own mom said Kamala slept her way to the top today. We’re done for awhile.

    I don’t even know yet how to parse the sheer lack of moral focus from the woman that raised me. Like it really fucks me up.

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      Same here. My Mom refused to vote for Trump but was unhappy about her vote for Harris because

      • Harris slept her way to the top
      • is not black
      • was violently Antichristmas one year, then all festive the next.

      I don’t know where to even begin, but fact checking one of her claims said that it was one persons Facebook post who never responded when asked for sources or evidence

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          That was the craziest part. Supposedly there was a leaked report from 23andme showing she was genetically not black.

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            Supposedly there was a leaked report from 23andme showing she was genetically not black.

            Whenever some stupid shit comes out of trump’s mouth his minions go put out propaganda to make him be “right”. They have bot armies to amplify their posts to spread themand make people believe it (plus his followers already want to believe it so their job is easy). Musk has made this very easy to do on Xitter.

            So this is just another example. When he said she wasn’t black and got made fun of, they rushed to put out propaganda on social media that there was a 23andme test showing she wasn’t Black and “see? he was right!” and amplified it to spread it even more. They do that with everything, like after the debate they put out pictures of grills with meat cooking on them that they said were cats and everyone just believes it.

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              Circumstances like this make all too many of us shake our heads at the death of comedy, because “you can’t make that up. No one would believe it’s realistic”. But somehow it gets believed, and it spreads. Certainly part of it is new media with no standards or accountability, but people do need to have some sort of judgement.

              If it’s too unrealistic to get laughs as a parody attempt, should I believe it actually happened?

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          I’ve seen that sentiment and that she slept her way to the top. It’s all just projection, racism and misogyny. Every trump vote was a vote for hate.

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      Woah, so let’s just assume what she said is true. So in your mom’s world the only way for a women to get to that level is to sleep her way to the top. That is pretty fucked up.

      What is even more fucked up is living in that world she blames the women for it!? I can’t even.

      Even a precursory look at her record would show that is not even remotely true, but I digress. After all, we have a first lady (of the night) right now that actually did sleep her way to the top.

      So I guess she has some reason to believe it happens. I just don’t understand the hate. It is okay for this women to do it but not her, even if that is not what she did.

      Perhaps the root of it is your mother is just racist. I think this really hits home for me as well. Growing up I believed my mother loved everyone being a self-proclaimed Jesus freak. Now that she is older she suddenly hates gays and loves Trump. It is hard to reconcile.

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        Yes she also uses the “she turned black” line as is if that shields Trump from his overt racism from that debacle. As if just accepting everything he says is fine means it’s fine…

        In real life she never acted like that. The more I think about it the more weirded out I get. I guess I didn’t see it through my own numbness being it’s just more common here.

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        My dad went on a rant how Puerto Ricans are all lazy and just grift off the system to live off benefits. His only grandkids are born to a Puerto Rican, who passed the bar becoming a lawyer. (Prior to having kids with my only sibling)

        Throw in that “no black people can raise kids”, and it was enough for me to cut contact.

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          Won’t let Puerto Rico become a state to advocate for their economic rights. Complains they don’t do enough for themselves. We did the exact same thing to the Native Americans. It reeks of a slow burn genocide to be honest.

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            I believe Puerto Rico chose to not become a state most of the last 20 years. 2012 was the last real vote I remember. 55% or such wanted to become a state. But it was a small part of the population. 5% voted for independence. They are the world’s oldest colony if I remember (Guam same time). End of the Spanish Civil War in 1898.

            We joined WW2 because a territory like Puerto Rico was attacked. I’m not sure why people liked Hawaii so much more other than propaganda tied to it having a good military base location. Also, not saying people shouldn’t have liked Hawaiins, just that clearly our view of the two territories is drastically different. I could almost guarantee the support percentage drops even more if it came to defending the people in Guam. Most people don’t even remember they are a territory, more remember part of Semoa than Guam around me

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              That is not really accurate. The reason it has not become a state has everything to do with Congress. You can check out the Wikipedia page on it, I know I just did.

              I found this tidbit.

              “According to Christina D. Ponsa-Kraus, professor of legal history at Columbia Law School, some American legislators feared that racial mixing would occur among white Americans in the contiguous United States and non-white Puerto Ricans if Puerto Rico were admitted as a state. Puerto Ricans were restricted to limited self-governance—under a U.S.-appointed governor—and did not have U.S. citizenship.”

              So perhaps racism is really the deciding factor. It also played heavily into why the US did not take over Mexico for fear of blood mingling.

              Perhaps those that oppose statehood have good reason though. Hard to join a country that seems to hate you

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                Why does that say they don’t have U.S. citizenship? They are natural U.S. citizens. Also U.S. appointed governor sounds a fishy title for a governor that is voted on by only the citizens of Puerto Rico. So yes they are “U.S. appointed” but the U.S. citizens appointing them are the residents of Puerto Rico.

                President Obama also went there and said he would support whatever they chose https://web.archive.org/web/20230124035101/https://www.nytimes.com/2011/06/15/us/politics/15obama.html

                Note: it may also be the easiest way to get a U.S. citizenship that many overlook. I have seen somewhere you can get a citizenship in PR with only 1 year of residency.

                As for racism, yes that will exist for a few generations likely even after statehood, wish we could fix that but we backtracked a lot lately there it seems.

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      That sucks. If you want an adoptive mom, I have lots of kids, what’s one more?

      Also this 53% number is fucking with me. I know so many white women and only one (70 years old) would vote for trump.

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        Appreciate it I’ll be good. Things will settle.

        I just hope she can reflect on what I said and why it bothers me.

        I think I’ll pass time by looking into helping others too though. Definitely be a better outlet for me than trying to waste time convincing Trump supporters of anything.

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          Not disagreeing and I like that approach. I do want to say, though, that I’ve committed myself to keeping track of some of the egregious stuff that’s going to come and addressing it with the people in my life who voted for Trump and did not properly know / accept what that entailed.

          To bring them back, I think we have to find (effective) ways to show them bad things they did not want to happen, that they helped enable, as they occur. It’s tough because I don’t want to turn every interaction into political badgering (and I won’t), but there’s no chance I can stay quiet as the great shitshow unfolds, either.

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            Yeah I think about how to resolve the issue but for now I think a bit of silence and me planning to move to a blue state are going to drive home the point as well.

            It’s not my point to manipulate people into agreeing with my side but like they HAVE to at least contend with reality and get back to some form of adult discourse.

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      The alternative was apparently not inspiring enough to vote for (/s). You know, someone who isn’t that.

      (I voted gladly for Harris)

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        Yes, because Americans are idiots who think that they have to vote for someone they like rather than STOP A FASCIST DICTATOR.

        Jesus Christ.

        Enjoy never having your vote count again.

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          People at my spouse’s workplace were high-fiving each other on Wednesday. This country is just a goddamn middle school.

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            A few of the guys (Americans) I game with called it “A good result.” All I could respond with was a heavy sigh.

            At least they haven’t been spouting the usual mysogynistic BS in my presence, unlike my last group. They were outright partying, and they aren’t even American!

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            I’ve wanted to cry since Wednesday morning but it’s just not coming out. I’m just too numb. If I was around people like that though, I might have been able to find somewhere to go cry.

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              you should go cry it out squid. grab your friends and partake in your favorite drug you really do need an emotional release.

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              FS, I’m so sorry, I’m not trying to be an absolute dick here though it will sound like it.

              I saw this coming miles away, hence sending my family to Europe.

              I desperately hoped I was wrong (and Kamala taking over made me dare to dream), but I knew the worst bits of my country too well.

              I really fucking wish I had a better plan right now, this is like the end scene of Empire, but with so much less hope. :(

              Am I crazy, or did we feel less helpless the first time around?

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              Yeah, same, I’ve been largely numb and cold, more angry than scared or wanting to cry, but it wouldn’t be immediately apparent when you talk to me in person (not that I let anyone get close enough to do that these days). Part of it is that we’ve been through it before—last time, he was still an unknown quantity, a question mark. However, we have more than an inkling as to what sort of inhuman shit to expect this time around, so we best spend some time getting prepared.

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    Im sure some of this is real. But i wonder how much of this is actually foreign state actors. We have a bunch of countries working overtime trying to destabilize the U.S. right now.

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      I’m definitely still somewhat in denial, starting from about 2015. Most of this can’t be real, right? My fellow Americans can’t really want this, can they? I understand Trump likes attention and running a sweet scam, but he can’t actually want to be president, right?

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      Makes no difference to the women being targeted, and is still the direct result of a Trump win. Give the real magas 30 more seconds to realize they’ve just witnessed the birth of Let’s Go Brandon 2.0 and they’ll dwarf the number of state actors anyhow.

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      This and the “lefties” increasingly calling for another insurrection. Definitely a lot of foreign state actor influencing the emotion right now.

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      At least 90% is my guess. MANY foreign countries are trying very hard to ensure we tear ourselves apart from the inside

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        Points from Foundations for Geopolitics (basically the current russian playbook)

        In the Americas, United States, and Canada:

        Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instability and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".[9]
        The Eurasian Project could be expanded to Central and South America.[9]
        
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    It’s a darth vader cosplay fetish. They wanna be a cool bad guy.

    Except just the shitty parts, minus the cool costume, powers, or voice. Then they try to convince themselves it’s working with seven laughing-too-hard emojis.

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    Speaking as a Canadian where women have full bodily autonomy perhaps American women would like to vacation in Canada?

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    A whole generation of the kid who stands behind the other kid and says, “YEAH!!!” after the fact and then shrinks away and cowers.

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    The fact these losers (misogynists) don’t even have shame in what they’re saying and are not afraid of the repercussions, this could have on their personal/work lives, by saying all this fucked up shit, just makes it even awful tbh. There is really no justice.

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    A campaign run by trolls wasn’t just gonna stop trolling once they win. Of course they were gonna double down with being awful people.

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    why do people spend so much time being awful

    I didn’t think there was a most pathetic way to out yourself as a rapist

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    Honestly, avoiding sex seems like a good strategy. Even as a man, I’d fucking hate impregnating someone just to have them die in my arms in a fucking parking lot. Fuck MAGA! You people are the death of America!