I installed the beta. It’s not that bad. My server was the first thing I saw when I opened it. So it wasn’t pushing the other stuff.
It’s missing a bunch of little things tho, like checking the file properties for an episode or movie.
This overhaul might live up to their pitch. I hope it does.
yeah, same. i hope it works out! doesn’t seem like it’s going to affect my library & might be easier for newer users. idk why everyone is so up in arms about it.
I’ve liked the sound of Plex forever but after it taking years for the wife to finally be comfortable finding her way around Kodi I couldn’t really try it.
Just last week I fancied a tinker & I’d heard Plex has potentially begun to enshittify so I ended up putting Jellyfin on our htpc just to test it. As well as all the usual groups, it was simple to create additional collections for stuff only the wife wants to see rather than things we’ll watch together. Within a day or so she’s already flying round it so we’ve pretty much moved to Jellyfin. It doesnt seem to like IR remote control like Kodi does which is a shame & I’m struggling a little with the live TV aspect which was also very straightforward on Kodi but I havent looked too closely into it yet.
Overall very impressed with Jellyfin.
i use threadfin for managing m3u for jellyfin, if that’s how you’re doing live tv. as for the remote, I was looking into one of these FLIRC USB receivers recently… if i do it i’ll let you know how well it worked
Thanks for the info, I’ll look a little deeper into the live TV side of Jellyfin. Ive not heard of FLIRC USB before. Very interesting, I’d love to know how that goes, thank you
You made me do it, ive ordered one. Having spent money I guess that means we’re all in on Jellyfin now …but if its no good I’ll be sending the boys round for a full refund lol.
Will keep you posted, might save you some money if you can hold out, cheers
Why do people still use Plex
client supports more platforms
It runs well and runs on Synology
There is no reason not to
Because it’s far superior to the alternatives.
In terms of what?
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You felt the need to tell us that it’s „far superior“, but won’t even mention a single argument.
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I’m interested in your specific features you find better :) I really like Jellyfin but use both and like to recommend to my friends what works better for them, depending on what they like
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My friend in fediversing - you are the one who made a comment with a claim people have asked you to expand on or back up and you have utterly failed at that repeatedly.
You could have just never commented in the first place and you wouldn’t be whining right now.
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I’d be genuinely interested, because when I read a list I think “meh” to most of the things because I don’t find them useful. If someone tells me “hey I use this and that because it accomplishes x and y for me” and I thought it could only to z. So I learned something.
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I tried Jellyfin but I use the live TV section extensively and something about their implementation of the programming guide worked badly.
Anyone that has tried the new version, does plex still make it really difficult to view your library by folder/file rather than by meta data?
I use jellyfin because I can get a folder view.
I don’t think it ever did?
Been using Plex 5 years now and all I had to do was click the view drop-down and select “folder view” instead of “collection view” and boom, done
Yeah I can’t see a file / folder view on the new client. Not that I saw one on the old android client either.
Must admit the new app is more responsive than the old version on my P7P however having “new on XYZ” service that I don’t have is a shit addition to the new client.
I’ve just tried it and it does have a folder view for each library.
If this turns out as bad as it seems then I’ll probably finally be leaving my lifetime Plex pass behind for jellyfin once it rolls out to the Android TV app.
as bad as it seems
Based on anything in particular? General consensus seems pretty positive from folks who have tried it.
Because it’s continuing the trend of focusing on live free channel streaming, finding things to watch on other streaming services, social media-esque interactions with other users, and other shit I don’t care about.
I just want something that will stream my media from my NAS to whatever I’m trying to watch it on, and do it well.
So, just because they added a few features, you’re not interested in, futures you don’t have to use or even see, you wanna switch to a far inferior alternative? And people are supposed to believe this is a reasonable argument?
If it does the basic things that I want it to do well without being surrounded by the bloat of useless profit-driven features, and it’s FOSS, then it isn’t inferior to me.
The only meaningful update (to me) Plex has had in the past few years has been forcing everyone to switch from using TVDB to their inferior metadata agent.
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Oh no…
There are so many little fixes and changes they have done over the years. I expect so many edge cases that they kindly took care of not being taken care of anymore.
My exact reaction when I read that headline!
If it’s shit I’ll jump to Jellyfin
It would need to physically slap you through the screen to be worse than it already is. How is anyone still using it? inertia? there’s literally no way anyone started using it after the subscription was added right?
I paid for a lifetime subscription 6 years ago… would definitely say I got my $80 worth.
Only complaint is that the streaming my own media files doesnt work great with my VPN, but I so rarely need that, so I havent spent much effort trying to figure it out. It’s on my list of things to do though.
You don’t need to run Plex through a VPN just any torrent clients.
It’s 2024 friend. There are no such things as good upgrades. Enshitification dominates every damn time.
Looks like I’ll have to give jellyfin a go. I’ve been pleased with plex and haven’t yet had a good reason to transition (what can jellyfin do better than plex? )
None of the people I’ve added as friends ever use Plex. Feels stupid to have that in the UX, and I’m not even sharing what I’m watching with them.
I feel you. I have close to 30 friends on plex, but only like 5 people use it regularly, another 4 sporadically … and most others either have never watched anything or just like seconds (probably just testing if it worked).
It’s not the easiest platform to adopt, especially if you just have an account to connect to a friends library and don’t know how to do the inital setup (hiding all the free crap). Most of my regular viewers are family members … and I setup their homescreen for them.
I just want to use my local library in peace
Fuck you, Subscribe.
I grabbed Plex lifetime for peanuts a few years ago and pretty happy with it. They do Cyber Monday discounts as far as I remember.
It’s a business. Hosting a service to keep connections up isn’t free or trivial. It’s cheap and easy to learn how to maintain though. Get jellyfin and a VPN and a tunnel.
There are some punctuation errors in your title. It should read:
Plex is “overhauling” its apps with a redesign and under-the-hood “upgrades”
Those who use Plex to access personal media will find that their libraries are in a
dedicated[hidden] tab, while the Watchlist will take up prime real estate in the top navigation section. Plex says it also streamlined the user menu for quick access to things like your profile, friends and watch history.So they’re hiding the entire point of Plex deep in the menu and promoting things that make them money. Enshittification.
Precisely. I don’t want or use any of those features. I’ve disabled all the streaming service and friend stuff, I don’t ever use the watchlist, and I use Tautulli for watch history. I don’t even really care about watch history either. I mostly set up Tautulli because I like self-hosting stuff.
Friendly reminder that Plex didn’t even use SSL until about a month after I wrote a POC exploiting login tokens.
Though I’m not sure why an overhaul is considered a bad thing.
Did a quick check of this in the iOS beta and there is no indication of additional enshitification as everyone fears.
The first tab is the home tab and the first few rows are from my library. I don’t see any option to hide the random noise that comes after it.
The second tab is the library itself which has the normal rows of various groups, continue watching, recently released, etc.
There is also a tab for live tv, on demand and discover.
I’ll probably only use discover because I use the watch list as one of many ways to feed my wanted lists.
I used plex for years and years with my lifetime license, but a few years ago I felt Plex was way too bloated and swapped to Jellyfin. I don’t think about Plex now unless an article mentions it. There’s no feature of functionality I notice that’s missing, and I have a low tolerance for dealing with troubleshooting when I want to relax.
Are jellyfin apps available on most devices yet?
Yes
They finally added intro skipping within the last month that works with the web client. Now we just have to wait for clients to update.
How about iOS downloads for offline viewing? Server transcoding?
I’m a lifetime plex user but this enshitification has been increasing a lot lately.
Not sure, I don’t use Jellyfin myself. I use Emby. It’s the more feature rich and polished older brother of Jellyfin.
I’ve been following Jellyfin’s progress because I’d like to go full FOSS but it’s still just not there yet. UI, clients, performance, all too big a downgrade from Plex still.
I can definitely recommend you look into Emby. It’s still the best alternative to Plex’s enshittification.
Thanks so much for the response. You understand. I want to go OSS but I’m just not quite willing to settle for a huge feature gap.
It’s funny, it’s a race to see if the OSS can get good enough or if the commercial software gets shitty enough.
Eventually I’ll switch but the loss in feature has to outweigh the shit.
I can’t speak for iOS but for Android the official app allows you to download the files but you have to watch them in another app. There’s a 3rd party app for Jellyfin that lets you download and watch in-app. It’s peak open source fragmentation.
Server transcoding is there and works great though.
I abandoned jellyfin shortly into my self hosting setup. Plex just worked, with Jellyfin I spent an hour trying to figure out how to get it to serve an acceptable to Firefox codec and never succeeded. I’m sure with more effort I could have figured out what the magic combination was, but it wasn’t obvious and I had too many other things to set up.
How long ago was that and do you remember the codec?
Right now, Jellyfin is still too buggy and feature-poor for my tastes. I can’t imagine trying to convince my friends and family to use it instaed of Plex. Jellyfin shows a lot of promise though. Hopefully it won’t be too long before I’m comfotable making the switch. I suppose Plex might force my hand before that.
Even my mother can use it.
The only issues I encountered so far is playback on my chromecast dongle with the embedded player refusing to play nicely with some files/subtitles.What is feature poor about it?
Link to the Plex blog announcement.
And a link to the Plex forum post.
What about TV and big-screen devices?
The initial preview release is focused on the mobile experience for users. We plan to share a similarly updated TV experience soon. Stay tuned!
In this thread posted by Jesus himself: EleventhHour having a mental breakdown fighting everybody yo explain how Plex is better than everything else.
I don’t even have a take on this, it’s just funny.It is very funny, but also kind of sad. It’s just stupid elitism over what … the way you host your personal, probably pirated, media? I don’t understand why people take it so seriously. It’s such a 1st world problem.
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